Unfair child support laws
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May 6th, 2016Someone from Copiague, NY writes:
Over the winter general contracting work came to an end as things slowed down, during the same time child support bills piled up. I was set a notice to pay up or have a suspended license. I did pay by borrowing money in anticipation of upcoming work. The payment process is so slow that during which another week had passed and the account had balance raised. In anticipation of this slow process I had sent up an extra weeks payment without realizing it was 2 dollars short. So, I wired money into the account via WireGram and confirmed they, NYS Child support, received the money and to date 3 days later the account has not been credited the extra week and an extra 15 dollars which should leave me with a credit balance. So, because of the slow payment process the account is not reflecting my wire transfer 3 days late and that coupled with the 2 dollar deficiency balance my drivers license was suspended last night at 12:01am EST and It will take several more business days up to a week to get it all straightened out. So, now I will be short a weeks pay because of the slow payment process and the 2 dollar balance. How does this help? If someone is paying and there is evidence why is such a thing allowed? It seems unconstitutional to me..... I light of evidence that was brought forth during the custody balance the only reason the ex-girl had commenced the action for child support was for leverage during the custody battle.... The judge questioned her "on the record" about why she was wasting the courts time this baseless proceeding being there was a zero balance and her response was "just because she wanted it on the record", the judge flipped out.... but she got it. How is the allowed to happen? -
May 6th, 2016Someone from Kansas City, MO writes:
I'm in the same boat. Ex wife left me for a man in prison. I myself have a clean record. These laws will never change as the goverment needs a scape goat for these people, as there are men getting away with this too. Not a year after the divorce she takes me back for an increase. In court she said it was due to my daughter being diagnosed with diabetes. Judge aaked when was she diagnosed just so happened to be 3 days after she filed the papers. Tells us to go to mediation which is a waste of $200. Well we get in mediation and i asked for 2 days a week and overnights on Sunday. She fought the overnights on sunday but agreed to 2 nights a week. Her reason for not wanting them to stay overnight on Sunday is because they have school the next day. Yeah you read that right. Me and mediator have the WTF look. I knew immediately she knew more time meant less for her. Mind you this woman said she was struggling but had her hair and nails done weekly and designer clothes but the girls come over like a mess oldest needed a perm and was putting gel on her edges to try and make it look good. We agreed to one day a week originally but she fought that too. We finally get her to agree in mediation on the days we get to court a month later and she changed her mind. I ended up with 1 day and still every other week. Had to or case would be thrown out and back to just 4 days a month. Judge even told her to downgrade what she do upgrade get a bigger place and bought two cars. Sends kids over in too little clothes and tells them they have to dress bummy going to daddy's house cause she might not get HER GOOD CLOTHES BACK. Mind you they at first came over in clothes and a empty bag i send the clothes they wore over in the bag come back and send them with something i bought. Of course that meant i was not havibg anything for them. I ask her nicely could she send them back with an outfit as they donhave anything at my house. Her response I'll pack everything you got them and send back. Niw im paying child support and having to buy them clothes constantly cause im not sending them out like bums. I pay for them to get hair done as she does it when she feels lije it. Youngest comes and you can tell hair aint been combed in days. Bad part about that is she is paid to do her freinds hair. Sorry im all over the place with this but im ****ed. I live with my mother because i have to take care of them like i have them full time and paying child support. Something i paid right after she left me without a judge telking me to pay something so i take care of mine as they didnt ask to be here. There's tons of other things but wont go into. Only way this law is changed is if they find another scape goat for these vindictive manipulating people. Lost all fait. Live with parents and looked at by others as a deadbeat cause i try to do the right thing. Government is eating very well ofg this as well with the courts they dont care. Get told to take her bavk to court but lawyers say well notREPORT COMMENTS
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May 6th, 2016Someone from Fresno, CA signed.
May 6th, 2016Someone from Mount Vernon, OH writes:
The father was there to make the child, the standard should be 50/50 visitation with minimal to no child support unless otherwise agreed on by the parties. I'm tired of seeing mothers being allowed to sit back and not work to support her children but yet expect for the father to pay that leaves him no money to live!REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 6th, 2016Someone from Long Beach, CA signed.
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Dandridge, TN signed.
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May 5th, 2016Someone from Pasadena, CA signed.
May 5th, 2016Someone from Columbus, OH writes:
I remember requesting a support review because I lost my job. They ended up raising my support. What a f'ing joke.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Drumright, OK signed.
May 5th, 2016Someone from Mission, TX writes:
The problem with Child-Support laws is stupid, there are multiple Loop-Holes, and the fact that a woman can now also lie and say she was on the pill, get knocked up then refuse to get an abortion because of religious beliefs and such... There simply needs to be more strict Laws put into place where women need to have proof of being on the pill to prevent getting knocked up to begin with on their ID, just like two young people having sex the problem someone claims they are 18 and yet they are 16 or 17 and you have broken the Law clearly new legal measures need to be taken like (Show me you're ID before we have sex.) I am serious about this the whole Child-Support Law is often abused, and personally I would rather go to jail if this were my case than pay child support, even kill myself in Real Life, so lets be thankful this isn't something I have to deal with although there are plenty of drunk party's and people out there who have sex constantly who have to worry about this. Currently the only legal way to have casual sex without a condom is to get Video Evidence, and signed documents from someone saying they waive their rights to child support if they get preggers, and that is just a bit insane.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Winterville, NC writes:
I got a woman pregnant and told her that the child was unaffordable, to my surprise twins. We decided that an abortion was the right thing. I was paying for it and set the appointment that she decided not to keep. After telling her that I would not be able to take care of the babies she stated, " You taking care of Jr. (my first born) you gone take care of these abd the state gone make you take care of them. She later became pregnant again which we decided on adoption for this one, which she later decided to keep. Now I'm stuck giving her money and I can't afford to pay my bills. Sad thing is everyone in the legal system can't or will not help me. And like she said the state is making me pay, so much for EQUAL UNDER THE LAW. She kept them against my will knowing I couldn't afford them and now the rest of my family is being punished. So why should I have to pay since she wanted to keep them, I can't afford to.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Fresno, CA writes:
I agree these women who have children for a income should not be rewarded by collecting unfair amounts of child support.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Decatur, GA writes:
I have 2 kids of which I am currently paying an extremely large amount of child support for one. Not because I'm a deadbeat, but because the mother wants to see me suffer. I asked the judge to consider my obligation to my other child and the response I received was "your other child doesn't count." I almost cried, but I held back my emotions. Basically the court was saying one child was more important than the other; but then they will say every decision is in the best interest of the kids smh. I love my kids and I want to do right by both. In our court system, a woman can be spiteful and vindictive, which causes a father to be subject to an unfair and undeniable outdated law which forces him to pay the mother tax free CASH based on salary not the child's needs. I'm fully capable and willing to take care of my responsibilities, why I'm i denied this opportunity? Why can't I have the same rights as the mother. She was able to report her disposition, but I can't? How do I know where my money is going? There's no receipts, no accountability on the mother's part to show what she's doing with this money. On top of this, I have to ask for permission to see my child?....am I a criminal? Furthermore, I have to report this income earned on my taxes but have no clue of what % is being spent on my child, and the mother gets to claim the child on her taxes. If I am allowed to see my child, I barely have enough money to take her to fun events or buy toys (as the mother takes most of it and I still have to consider my other child). This isn't what life is about, people are born to be loved. But it's sad to say that I feel like my 2nd child is a burden and being used as a weapon of extortion against me. I'm really disappointed in our court system as it's dividing families and ruining lives. I don't want anymore kids because it's not fun anymore. Each time I request a fair opportunity to be involved in any aspect of my child's life, it's up to the mother. It just breaks my heart....all I'm asking for is to share the same experience and privilege as the mother; as I am the father, right? The system is definitely being abused and the courts are suppose to protect us from this but for some reason, these issues are being ignored. Something has to change folks. Read the comments, people are anger, not because they have to support their kids; but being subjected to an unfair system where they are being penalized for no justifiable reason. I never had a chance in court. God, please help us.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Chula Vista, CA writes:
My husband and I have 2 kids. He has 3 other children prior to our relationship. 2 he did not know about. He is active military. Unfortunately California counts his BAH/BAS as income which I think is unfair. Those are entitlements. Needless to say, one of his orders is $940. That is for 1 child. I find it crazy. All because he does not spend any time with the child. Not his fault because the mother will not let him. Considering that he pays $1600 in support, how is he suppose to afford a lawyer to file for visitation? These laws need to change immediately. I don't think it is right that a mother can go file child support when the child is 4 or 5 and get back support from the time the child was born. If people are going to have children then it should be a law that right after the child is born a DNA test shall be done and child support should be filed automatically because it is unfair to the child as well as the father.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 5th, 2016Someone from Hazelwood, MO signed.
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May 4th, 2016Someone from Norfolk, VA writes:
There are multiple loopholes in current written statutes concerning child support that cater to the custodial parent, not the child(ren). Many states allow the custodial parent to remain un- or underemployed while mounting large childcare bills and other expenses supposedly rendered to child rearing. Simpler laws are required to ensure the child(ren) actually receive appropriate care without granting hidden privileges to custodial parents bereft of human decency. As Reagan put bluntly when referring to a national adversary: "...it takes two to tango."REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 4th, 2016Someone from Bradyville, TN writes:
My kids and I are practically starving to pay child support to my husbands exwife. She has 4 open cases with 4 open states and my husband is being charged by all 4 states 500 a month each. The states won't close the cases in the states where she is no longer residing. So the "arrears" are continuing to add up at a rate of 1500 a month when his support order is for over 500 a month.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 4th, 2016Someone from Las Cruces, NM writes:
Fathers have no rights why can a lazy mother receive max amount of child support and collect welfare for 9 years and father with two other children and wife suffer ? Change the laws limit the money for lazy mothers !!!!!REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 4th, 2016Someone from Atlanta, GA writes:
This isn't right!!!!! My license get suspended and now I can't work as a truck driver!!!! Besides child support I have other bills and my child's mother doesn't even work, then I'm behind so I have rears to pay but in the dumbass state of South Carolina even if you go to jail the child support keeps moving up and I got to pay the rears and child support and they can't even pause it for me?? I also pay taxes as well and they take my tax money every year!!!!! This is crazy. This can't go on.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 4th, 2016Someone from Virginia Beach, VA signed.
May 4th, 2016Someone from Hartford, CT writes:
I am disabled getting disability and paying 40% of my disability to child support leaves me with no money to eat or pay rent it is unfair if there is a law against it I need to knowREPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 3rd, 2016Someone from Missoula, MT writes:
I was actually looking for some research on the federal government and state agencies involving this racket in child support. The way the laws are set up as we all on this petition know, it absolutely not right. According to Salem Press Encyclopedia, the child support laws are meant for the children to live off the wealth of both parents, this is obviously not happening an furthermore the men are not only the caregivers now, with woman working like they do these laws are out of date for real. Let us get these laws amended. This system is not effective and are causing kids to miss out on having both parents around and causing many of us to live at poverty levels and we are the ones working hard.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 3rd, 2016Someone from Jacksonville, FL writes:
i am lucky to pay fair amount of child support and see my son when is best for us but this due to the fact we do not go through the state system. When i look at others i see how unfair the system is. Exp is a man i know has son he has a split custody of him he also pay large amount in child support his ex has never worked in her life and now is 28 years old. he is recently gotten married had little girl and has to have 3 bed room home because girls and boys cant share same room even tho he only gets to see his son every other week. He can barely make it by he's buried in debt but he makes sure his child support is always paid even when he lost his job. I look at a system that needs to be more fair. yes not every one is effected by this but i don't ever want this to happen to any one of my little boys or girls or anything of the like to any one it can destroy young peoples life's making impossible to go to college start new family's or in case of individuals working min wage, live!REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 3rd, 2016Someone from Butler, MO signed.
May 3rd, 2016Someone from Sikeston, MO writes:
Child support flawed!!! Man paying for kids not his!!wife cheats hubby still on the hook for child not hisREPORT COMMENTS
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May 2nd, 2016Someone from Henderson, NV writes:
Update!!! So on 3/15/16 I went to child support division and filled out and filed a Request for a Hearing form. With all documentation that shows fraud in my case. That it never went to court, even though we did go to court three times and only spoke about custody, and some how was granted 83% of my payroll. Although I was granted joint custody. Proof that there was no court date missed by either party. The fact that a Judge mentioned that there was fraud committed in my case. The proof also shows that I have over paid 57k in child support. Today 5/2/16 I received a letter from the district attorneys office that states; Enclosed is copy of the audit per your request. Additionally, the Deputy District Attorney has advised regarding your request for a hearing and states you are free to file anything you want with the clerks office. It is not the responsibility of this office to file the motion for. If you receive a new court order from a Family Court, you must provide our office with a filed Copy so we can confirm to that order." So its official Family Court in the state of Nevada is above the law. If any citizen were use paperwork that went against a law, the paper work would be considered invalid. Why is there a form to request a hearing but its not the job of the DA's office to file a motion. Yet the form is offered at the child support division build on E. Flamingo in Las Vegas NV. Its a green form and at the top states office of The District Attorney Family Support Division. I have given proof of FRAUD in my case and the state chooses to follow the fraud and not the LAW!!!! How is this fair in any way!!! You are allowed to BREAK THE LAW IN FAMILY COURT IN THE STATE OF NEVADA AND GET AWAY WITH IT!!!!REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 2nd, 2016Someone from Santa Cruz, CA writes:
As the long term partner if a man who was once married to a master manipulator, I will MARCH if needed to address this issue. There is abundant evidence that this woman commited fraud when asking for child support, and left a wake of destruction in an effort to support her own selfish cause. What's worse is that the department of child support services is colluding in this fraud with her! He is still fighting to get the case dropped, but it has been a nightmare. His DL and passport were taken away, his bank account seized, and he has been maligned by her to so many people. The entire system is built on fraud. The state uses the women to create a system where the women get to stay home and get manicures, and hire babysitters to care for the children. All in the while, these poor men aren't allowed to see their kids even if they are capable, willing and fully able to, and have PAY to watch this happen. The children then become a ward of the state, and the hate mongering females who think they can fulfil both roles as father and mother are awarded a prize of money! The children don't get a penny's worth of a father's love. Instead, they get to "visit" dad, while mom "owns" the kids and pimps them out to the state for more money. Wake up! A perfect recipe to ruin your children for good: The Department of Child Support Services.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 2nd, 2016Someone from Henderson, NV writes:
Update!!! So on 3/15/16 ago I went to child support division and filled out a Request for a Hearing form. With all documentation that shows fraud in my case. That it never went to court, even though we did go to court three times and only spoke about custody, and some how was granted 83% of my payroll. Proof that there was no court date missed by either party. The fact that a Judge mentioned that there was fraud committed in my case. The proof also shows that I have over paid 57k in child support. Today 5/2/16 I received a letter from the district attorneys office that states; Enclosed is copy of the audit per your request. Additionally, the Deputy District Attorney has advised regarding your request for a hearing and states you are free to file anything you want with the clerks office. It is not the responsibility of this office to file the motion for. If you receive a new court order from a Family Court, you must provide our office with a filed Copy so we can confirm to that order.\" So its official Family Court in the state of Nevada is above the law. I have given proof of FRAUD in my case and the state chooses to follow the fraud and not the law!!!! How is this fair in any way!!! You are allowed to BREAK THE LAW in FAMILY COURT IN THE STATE OF NEVADA and GET AWAY WITH IT!!!!REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 2nd, 2016Someone from Lincoln, NE signed.
May 2nd, 2016Someone from Pattersonville, NY writes:
To all. I did this mass email thing and I got 2 responses. 1 from Kirsten Gillibrand, the other from Paul Tonko. Kirsten said that she would get back to me at a later date when she got time to properly read my email and make an appropriate response. Paul Tonko contacted me to tell me that in the big scheme of things, this was not his jurisdiction and to contact me Senator. For all in NY, this is Senator George Amedore. his contact info is amedore@nysenate.gov Lets get this petition thing forwarded to him, or possibly, send your child support cries to him to wake up this dead horse that leaves all the custodial parents feeling entitled to money that you work hard for. If you are in your children's lives to any extent, you should have a say in how the formula is figured out when child support obligations are established. The government needs to stop enabling these people from making child support a living. That is not in any entrepreneur book I have ever read. Let ask them to consider for a moment, that your money is your money and if given the ability to do so, you can provide a lifestyle that would mimic the lifestyle your child was used to when you and the other parent were a couple and the custodial parent, to take ownership of being a responsible parent and getting a worthy job to provide their share of the combined incomes. Lastly, if the parent remarries, the individual marrying the single parent, goes forward realizing that they are not marrying a single woman or single man, but a mother or a father of child/children. That they are establishing a family and that by stepping into that family, they become responsible for the family as a whole, not the kid/kids as if they were their own. If Joe has a full time job making $100,000 a year, and his new wife Sally, is a single mother making $25,000, and father Bill is making $100,000 per year, the father should not provide the mortgage for the newly established family just because they are the father of the children and the mother is entitled to his money. The court should consider that a father with 3 children is obligated to roughly 34% of his gross pay. Uncle Sam takes his entitlement of roughly 33% give or take and hard working Bill is left with 1/3rd of his over all pay, just because he fathered the children that he may not really want to share equal time with the mother, but is now forced to because she wants a new man in her life. Please consider that this is just a scenario and not the typical all the time.. This happens the other way too, but it is way less likely a scenario.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 2nd, 2016Someone from Stanford, KY signed.
May 2nd, 2016Someone from Pattersonville, NY writes:
To all. I did this mass email thing and I got 2 responses. 1 from Kirsten Gillibrand, the other from Paul Tonko. Kirsten said that she would get back to me at a later date when she got time to properly read my email and make an appropriate response. Paul Tonko contacted me to tell me that in the big scheme of things, this was not his jurisdiction and to contact me Senator. For all in NY, this is Senator George Amedore. his contact info is amedore@nysenate.gov Lets get this petition thing forwarded to him, or possibly, send your child support cries to him to wake up this dead horse that leaves all the custodial parents feeling entitled to money that you work hard for. If you are in your children's lives to any extent, you should have a say in how the formula is figured out when child support obligations are established. The government needs to stop enabling these people from making child support a living. That is not in any entrepreneur book I have ever read. Let ask them to consider for a moment, that your money is your money and if given the ability to do so, you can provide a lifestyle that would mimic the lifestyle your child was used to when you and the other parent were a couple and the custodial parent, to take ownership of being a responsible parent and getting a worthy job to provide their share of the combined incomes. Lastly, if the parent remarries, the individual marrying the single parent, goes forward realizing that they are not marrying a single woman or single man, but a mother or a father of child/children. That they are establishing a family and that by stepping into that family, they become responsible for the family as a whole, not the kid/kids as if they were their own. If Joe has a full time job making $100,000 a year, and his new wife Sally, is a single mother making $25,000, and father Bill is making $100,000 per year, the father should not provide the mortgage for the newly established family just because they are the father of the children and the mother is entitled to his money. The court should consider that a father with 3 children is obligated to roughly 34% of his gross pay. Uncle Sam takes his entitlement of roughly 33% give or take and hard working Bill is left with 1/3rd of his over all pay, just because he fathered the children that he may not really want to share equal time with the mother, but is now forced to because she wants a new man in her life. Please consider that this is just a scenario and not the typical all the time.. This happens the other way too, but it is way less likely a scenario.REPORT COMMENTS
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No, CancelMay 2nd, 2016Someone from Charlotte, NC writes:
Their will have to be a serious act of crime to get the attention of the ppl who control child support laws. And it would have to get national attention. Cause petitions and rallies don't workREPORT COMMENTS
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