California Child Support suspension of drivers license law

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The Great Recession has caused financial hardship for families. Action as serious as suspension of drivers license that causes a non-custodial parent to lose employment needs to be mandated by the courts. It is counter-intitutive that losing ones drivers license will result in payment of arrears.
Its horrible they took my license i was layed off work im an auto mechanic. I can work with no license so no license means no job i cant pay child support!
The legislators have no idea just how hard this law makes things for the honest CA residents that do pay their child support arrears regularly. Everyone has times in their life when they just can't make a payment on time, whether it's a PGE bill or phone bill or insurance payment, sometimes the money simply is not there. I have no padding in my bank account after a 7 year recession. Just about every other entity is willing to give you a break for a little extra time, because they realize this. But not California Child Support Services. One mistake and you are thrown into this time-consuming and costly CDL suspension program that makes you a criminal even when you are toeing the line. This automated law is just another way for CCSD to make more money from us and to let them push the work out of their offices and sub it to some other CA department. Of course, I want people to pay their child support.
I have been paying mine regularly for more years than I can count, and yet, it seems, every couple of years I am forced to jump through these hoops because I chose to eat and keep the heat and electricity coming instead of making a timely payment to DSS. This is morally wrong. I beg you, CA, readdress this law. You are badly hurting way too many of us.
So now, once again, I will have to drive illegally for a week or two, waiting for paperwork to go through and borrowing money to get the added fees paid, taking time off to go to the DMV and spending more than 2 hours contacting CS Services 5 times and then waiting all day for them to call me back. I am so freaking angry.
why take the one thing way that helps them pay that? dont get it !
Only a CA Family Court Judge should be able to suspend a drivers license regarding child support. The current law is ridiculous. In my experience the law has caused more complications and hardships to families, than it has helped. Child support is a serious issue. But the law simply makes the problem worse. California can do way better to resolve the issue, rather than the status quo. This law has to change.
This law makes no sense! My trade is a truck driver now for 18 years. This law has caused me to loose several jobs. This law allows child support to to suspend your license if you miss a payment. Then Dmv requires you to pay a fee. This is such a racket. I feel if no did no wrong as a driver you shouldn't have your CDL taken!! Not to mention with your CDL taken child support has no means of recovering there money as we are not able to work!!
Owe $5,700 to welfare I have $4,700.00 children support sevices say pay in full. thats all the money I have, my driver license is dead. These people are ruthless.
We signed up for payments to be withdrawn automatically, their system waited to pull the payment the first of the next month instead of the 28th and the recommended to the DMV to suspend my husbands license. This is unjust and ridiculous. He is a truck driver, without a license he cannot work. Reverse this terrible and unjust law!
Have had numerous suspensions of my license, after having the same job for 15 years as a route driver, and two daughters I pay support for, my career came to an end in 2015. The only reasons my garnishments were skipped was either a vacation check that was late, or had just had surgery and awaiting disability. Thanks CDCS
The ultimate goal of Child Support Agencies throughout California, is for the betterment of the child involved, correct? Then the suspension of daddy's driver's licenses who are having difficulty making full payments is simply not in anyone's interest. The State of California and its legislatures apparently do not have the child's best interest at heart if this ridiculous law continues to be enforced... when the state interferes and makes it considerably more difficult to find a job then what are we to believe? they lack compassion? or some complete idiot wrote this bill and their clueless peers voted for it...? or was there another reason this offensive bill passed? Whoever involved to get this passed should be ashamed of their failure to represent the people and their best interests!!!!
I haven't had my license for 15 years due to the fact my daughter was in a group home in Contra Costa County this home no longer exist and my daughter is almost 40 and DMV still not return my driver's license it's ridiculous
I am the custodial parent of a child who is 25 years old. Her dad and I were married when she was born. We separated and got a divorce shortly after she was 4 months old. The total amount of support I received for this child has been ~4,000k. Never received on a regular basis. Which if calculated over the 18 years that was court ordered support comes out to $18.51 per month. Ridiculous. Would not be enough even in a third world country--certainly not enough for the SF Bay Area where it was ordered and managed the enforcement of. This low amount is how much he ever actually paid. The order, of course, was $400 per month, roughly. Who cares, is my attitude now. He never even tried to pay it.

Is pulling his drivers license a good idea? While some might say that it is because it is a punishment of sorts, it never worked. It never inspired him to pay the support. It never helped him get a job or hold one. And I do not believe that it helps anyone at the end of the day.

The things that might have helped him--and ultimately his daughter by providing support would have been:
-providing vocational training at no cost
-providing assistance in keeping his drivers license, lowered traffic fees, something under a yet not created "child support encouragement program"
-assistance to find and maintain housing, if behind on child support payments
-assistance with cost of counseling (as losing the custody of a child for mother or father at any point is a horrible trauma--like no other)
-assistance with ongoing supportive services--perhaps filing tax returns, learning disability screening, maybe other disability screening...

The shame-based current modus operendi does not work. The program needs to be claimed as a failure and re-engineered. No threat of jail. That only creates stress for the person required to pay. Not conducive to a healthy parent child relationship. No pulling the drivers license, removing the adult's ability to act independently to the greatest extent possible... Something that elderly people die of after theirs is removed. As it symbolizes (at least) their freedom being lost.

So, I believe it is an unhealthy system. Does not benefit child, custodial parent or non-custodial parent. Not only are there no winners in this system, there are ONLY losers.

The child loses a parent (if jailed for non-payment) and the loss of support (if drivers license is suspended for non-payment). Not to mention the loss of a relationship with a parent who they do not live with and/or share a minimized stress dynamic (happy).

Government agencies and servants who do not see this are choosing not to. It could not be more obvious. Nothing about the current system works. Must be fixed.
I'm trying all I can. I lost my dream career because of this ridiculous law. How do these people expect us pay if we can't drive out to get jobs.
I saved $1,500 I went to offer $1,500 to release my license they told me NO! They wanted $2,000 because of the law. They claim to look after the childs convenience it is not true! I went into depression! Lost my job because I could not drive...
I think the suspension of driver license for the non-paying parent is the greatest idea!!!!! Most will not pay without a wage garnishment, so what options are left? Pay and shut up about it!
They also need to change the law for passports to i don't think it's fair if you're paying your child support you can obtain your passport I don't think it's fair that if you pay your child support you get your driver's license suspended or go to jail if you can't pay how are you going to pay if you can't get to work every day and then the 10% they put on your arrears every month it's kind of hard to get ahead to pay all of it off and they call us dead beat dads the only deadbeat people here are the people collecting our child support from the counties in the States I think there needs to be a change in these laws because there too harsh and they need to look into changing these laws if they want us to pay then Work with us don't work against us..........
They also need to change the law for passports to i don't think it's fair if you're paying your child support you can obtain your passport I don't think it's fair that if you pay your child support you get your driver's license suspended or go to jail if you can't pay how are you going to pay if you can't get to work every day you stupid people don't understand that.
This law is broken, keeps honest parents tied up in trying to honestly support the child.
If you can't feed em don't breed em! I alone take care of my son, I am not on welfare! I did not create this child on my own so yes his father should be held responsible for not providing anything not even his time. I do not need his help, I do it alone but you better believed I will enforce my son's right to child support from his father. Job or no job, license or no license he still would NOT pay. His life should not be made any easier from anyone because mine isn't. This law has helped more than it hasn't because the majority of fathers only pay to not get their license revoked, otherwise they would be constantly late or not pay at all like before it was put in place. kuddos to the parents who take care of their children's every needs. These posts are just ridiculous except for one, I agree that when a license is revoked there should be provisions to be able to go to work, even people who gets a dui gets that. Eliminating this law should not be an option and it will not pass, on the contrary stricter laws should be put in place!
If you can't feed em don't breed em! I alone take care of my son, I am not on welfare! I did not create this child on my own so yes his father should be held responsible for not providing anything not even his time. I do not need his help, I do it alone but you better believed I will enforce my son's right to child support from his father. Job or no job, license or no license he still would NOT pay. His life should not be made any easier from anyone because mine isn't. This law has helped more than it hasn't because the majority of fathers only pay to not get their license revoked, otherwise they would be constantly late or not pay at all like before it was put in place. kuddos to the parents who take care of their children's every needs. These posts are just ridiculous except for one, I agree that when a license is revoked there should be provisions to be able to go to work, even people who gets a dui gets that. Eliminating this law should not be an option and it will not pass, on the contrary stricter laws should be put in place!
Need a license to get a decent paying job to pay the ridiculous amount the courts are ordering non custodial parents to pay. Was not hired for many jobs, hell wasn't even considered for some, because of the suspended license. Idiot state politicians see it as another way to line their pockets without having to do any work themselves. Another way to make the rich richer and poor dead! Are you even giving the money you steal from us people to our children? $2000 in tax refund money was taken from me, but my ex told me she only got $800. I asked the dcss why that happened and the stupid ***** told me "well after all the court costs and legal fees were taken out, $800 was all that was left." Are you ****ing kidding me?!?!? THIS WHOLE CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT and after carefully thinking it all out, put it back in to play. Having the ability to control another person's life the way the dcss does can not be legal in any state! Bloodsuckers!
CS screws you in court then expects you to pay amounts you cannot afford when you cannot pay DL gets suspended you then lose your job or get the car impounded which also eventually gets you fired california is not a public transportation friendly state say like parts of NY people in CA have hardships and cant pay for 1 MONTH and boom there goes your DL then the job and the ability to pay now you are on welfare, food stamps .etc instead of being a productive citizen had you had your license now you are forced to depend of the goverment getting into more CS debt and putting the nation more into debt. CS should not be allowed to take away your DL. God bless Amerika
This so godless Amerika
this is ridiculous how can u pay child support if you cant get a job with no license who was the dummy who made up this law!!!!
My ex-husband hasn't paid child support since 2013. He hasn't work and doesn't plan on getting a "real" job that would enable me to have his salary garnished. He's now driving for Uber and making just enough money to keep up his cell phone bills & pay a bill or two. I hope if he gets pulled over or tries to renew his license they absolutely take him into custody. My children aren't benefitting the least bit from this these efforts he's making.
California is a very punitive state. The courts will bend over backward to appease the mothers, even if it mean filing and prosecuting false and bogus criminal charges against the father. It is all about jobs and money for the system. We need to outlaw these punitive practices by the courts AND the state. DMV should not be involved in child support. The courts should not hand over children to drug addicted, felons just because they happen to be the mother. The fathers should not have to pay if they are willing to take full custody of the child(ren). End the punitive laws, however the only way that will happen is to END THE DEMOCRAT AKA SOCILIST RULE.
This law, written and enforced by people that don't care about the other side of the coin...I seriously wonder HOW in the world something like this could even be considered a "LAW". The direct results they may have wanted in the beginning are NOT the reasons it continues today....
How does taking a persons license to drive, and any business license, simply because he's late on a payment - FAIR to the obligator in the least!? Personally, I've had 2 trucks, one car and my street bike impounded twice! All of which I couldn't pay for immediately so the IMMENSE amount of money owed, immediately, was greater than the vehicles worth.... In my opinion, these vehicles I PAYED FOR, were 'legally' stolen from me! Not to mention this LAW single handedly denied what would of otherwise been a CAREER as a Firefighter for me! (which in turn, WOULD have been more than enough income to pay for obligations AND to actually have a life, not to mention - HELLO, MEANS TO TAKE CARE OF MY DAUGHTER LIKE I have wanted since she was born! What is happening to this world!?
I just recently graduated with a degree. Hoping that an education will improve my employment prospects. I was wrong. I have been offered 5 different positions that have been pulled as soon as my back ground shows a suspension. I have contacted child support and tried to use reason and logic to get some help. No avail. In todays society the ability to drive needs to be considered a right. For my sake of my family I hope this petition can at least start the conversation. It makes zero sense to restrict a person's ability to earn income until they can afford to.
If I was granted custody from the start I could have taken good care of my daughter but I lost the battle because I live in Cali and she's in Florida so they tell me that being I didn't show up for court in Florida that the other parent wins. Well now 12 yrs past and due to no DL and tons of arrears later my daughter lives with babys moms dad which dosent need any help finacialy i still stuck with all the bull. I have talked to my lil girl now almost 14yrs old but once on the phone and went to see her for the first time in 2010 but i was told by grandpa that being you have a life in cali and your not staying here for her i dont want her to know your her father so she dosent feel like she is loseing you again . i know one day she will come find her dad God i hope so. I have so much to tell her and i want so bad to be her father while her mother is killing herself on the drugs that she feels is more important then life itself. Our government is so broken that a new system needs to be put in place I hope our next president can do more of what needs to be done for the people remember We The People We are what makes things tick but only if we don't keep getting stuck in these deep holes in our court system that the government refuses the fix because its a "La-git" way to embezzle the people that make them who they are today by voteing them to power to keep things on order not this disorganized chaos you call government. Do you job or we will one day find someone who WILL!!
OK, so perhaps it's alright to suspend a parent's drivers license as punishment for not keeping up with payments or making an arrangement in a child support case BUT the agency suspending the license (usually district attorney in a county) should be required to only suspend it "EXCEPT in the course of employment" meaning a parent can drive to/from/during work. I'd say this is a very reasonable compromise for legislators to enact.
Thank You! I will post more comments later. So hears a short one. Child Support Services is COSTING CA.( ei Tax Payers ) Millions Of $$$$$ For suspending Drivers License Of Non Working DADs. And most of the workers are doing it just because they Can. You suspend A Guys License He can't pay his car payment, insurance and Day to Day living. Now he has no car can't look for a job,(a Carpenter needs his truck and tools) and lives in the country. So now he has go on a Food Card and if He more than one to take care of probably will need wellfare for housing. Now he don't talk to His Kids because of SHAME for not being able to pay. Who benefits from this? No One. I have many more stories of How CPS have for the most has DESTROYED my Relationship with my Kids Caused Me to Lose PREVAILING WAGE JOBS Put Me In JAIL AND destroyed my life.THANK YOU FOR READING From A Victim Of Child Support Services
My daughter lost her job, got behind on child support. Calif took her drivers license AND her Notary license. She has been homeless now for years. Shame on California.
After reading almost all the comments I realizes pretty much all of them sound like as if I wrote them but each comment in different words a hundred times over. its weird but I guess not all that suprising to me that my predicament with my DL and CS and even my girlfriend that cheated wich is now why I never see my son that I pay an*****load for, is the same as not just a few but for many many others. we all are human and this is a really common thing going on for alot of us. YA theres fotta be something messed up there man. I hope this gets fixed so all of us can live a normal peaceful life like we did before we had babies. im 29 years old and I had no intention to still be living under the same roof as my dad at almost 30. it sucks and its very depressing dealing with this problem. now i see why people sometimes just off themselves making it easier to understand a person wanting to end there life. this would deffinently be the # one. im a hard working honest tax payer when I have a decent job I dont deserve this. no one does.
This bill is hurting more men than women. Figure out a different way to collect
I 1617th everything that has been said here so far. Coming from Nevada to California, I was pleasantly surprised to see CA actually doing something to help solve the problem by changing the protocol regarding child support suspended license. NV 's solution is to stop explaining your situation too much in court and pay because they did not have enough time in the day, pay a lawyer with money that you do not have to begin with, or spend 20 days in jail while what you do have established in life falls apart to the point where recovery is highly unlikely.

OH!! but you have 30 days to perform a miracle.
Taking driver license away from hardship mom or dad is just adding more difficult to the situation of keeping a job and pay child support
AS well as a suspended drivers license that prevents me from getting a job and working Merced DCSS has done nothing but harass me. I am disgusted by this Department. Over the last few years I have stood here begging and pleading with these people. I have been met with nothing but disrespect, rudeness, and harassment. I have been stuck on welfare due to these guttersnipes.

Welfare put me back in school 40 hours a week and had me working, for free, 40 hours a week to gain experience in my field of training to help get me a job. This decision was made based on a work injury that prevented me from returning to my field. This department enforced payments on me while in the program and demanded I have another full-time job on top off all this. I was told, more like demanded, "to drop out of school and drop out of welfare to get a damn job because I had to take care of this child." (Their words, not mine) I responded telling them I also had other children in my home, that are mine, and I also had to take care of them. Once again disrespectfully I was told "Those children don't matter". This is my "Do not push button" because I love my children and NOBODY talks about my children in this way.

Upon the birth of my daughter with my current wife I reported the addition to the family to my worker only to here "Well this is a bad time for you to have another child."

I have been dragged in and harassed over a matter of 300 dollars in the past which I paid off with financial aid money I needed for school.

Upon challenging the arrears gained while in school I was told by this department to fill out a certain court form which upon research did not exist. After months of this department giving me the run around I just filed paperwork to the courts just to get in and voice my concerns. I was met with there disrespectful*****of a representative who interrupts and down talks every client who has to deal with him. He stated he would "keep his hooks in me". He also just kept calling me a liar.

At this court hearing come to find out the mother moved out of state without notifying me years prior. The refuse to release jurisdiction, I live an hour and a half away, until they arrears are paid off. They could have notified me she moved out of state when at one point I did pay off the arrears a year and a half ago.

There is now a bench warrant out for me due to this department forcing me to report every other month just for a status check, I was still making payments and not flagged as a non-payee. I have no license due to them, no transportation (I ride a bus), no one able to take me, and no money. We are a low income family that barely makes it by as it is. In there letter informing me of the bench warrant they stated every reason I had told them why it was so difficult to report as not being an "excuse".

The problem now is I cannot get a job now because every employer that attempts to hire me is met with a bombardment of demands made by this department
When they suspend my dl and professional looking licenses if im late or cant make a full payment because i have two other childern to take care who live with me has ruined my life and has cost countless jobs that would actually allow to to make my payments without causing me to be short on rent, im a hard working father who is getting not only my life ruined but the lives of my other children
While there is a clear societal interest in keeping those who are unfit to drive off the roads, broadly restricting licenses for violations unrelated to an individualís ability to drive safely may do more harm than good. This is especially true in areas of the country that lack alternative means of transportation. For those individuals, a valid driver license can be a means to survive. Local communities, employers and, employees all experience negative consequences as a result of social non-conformity suspensions, including unemployment, lower wages, fewer employment opportunities and hiring choices, and increased insurance costs.5 People who are able to legally drive are more likely to have stable employment.6
I pqy my c.s and if I miss one tiny payment they suspended my******,
can't get a job let alone just live my life with out looking over my shoulder if I have to drive and try not doing that !!!
I have had my drivers license suspended for the last 15yrs, and even though my x was given physical custody, when she moved to NV. 10yrs ago, and left him with me and I've supported him since then, I haven't been able to get my license back, and my son is now 20yrs old ! I'm almost 53yrs old and haven't had a steady income for 3 decades this is insane!
There has to be a better alternative than this.
I applied at Fedex in February 2015 I got offered the job. Passed the background check but when they checked my dmv my license was suspended, I had got no notification and lost the job, thank you child support....I was then on a trip to the beach a few days ago I had got my license reinstated back in March and me and the driver got pulled over. They ran checks on both of us and my license was once again suspended with no notice, but this time they took my license and my only form of ID at request of the dmv. So I called child support and they told me it was an error and they would send an abstract, so now I have no ID and I have to pay to get another card and a reissuance fee. Both times they were garnishing me so its not like I wasn't paying

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