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I make 3 million dollars as my salary , and I pay 25,000 a month in child support.

How could a 3 year old child be accustomed to a certain lifestyle ? Kids don't need anymore then 500 a month.
My fiancÚ pays almost $900 a month to his ex wife. It is her 2nd child but his first. She gets 100% of her own income 50-60k then 20% from my fiancÚ and 20% from a different guy...
I am pregnant and scared out of my mind. We can barely afford what we have let alone adding a child. What makes her child priority over mine? A baby costs more than a 3yr old. And why can't we share 50/50 custody? We live close enough. Why does she need 20% of his income BEFORE taxes and I think it's extremely unfair he's commission only and they base it off of his average. What if he doesn't sell a car that week? Nice to know she'll get paid no matter what but my family has to suffer because apparently in the courts eyes were garbage. 1st borns from the male are all that matters. So basically if I wanted to run around and have the 1st born from 10 different men I'd be set for life getting 20% of each of their income. I think the more children you have from different guys your support goes down until it's even for them all. 2 baby daddy = 5% from each and the mother should have to get off her butt and go find a job. I hate his ex wife is buying a HOUSE with his child support and we struggle paying for 1.5 bedroom apartment with older cars and she's got a brand new car. It's just unfair.
100% disabled veteran, Arizona has made the right step now Oregon an west coast veterans which makes the highest concentration of war time vets let's stand up for what is just if uncle Sam feels our children only cost $80 bucks a month then why would the ex get $900 a month?
My husband's ex is gouging us for all we are worth. Before he and I were married she was kind, said he didn't need to pay child support, just to help with things their two children needed. Now, we are married with a new baby, and she has stopped letting him see the kids unless it is in HER house on HER terms, and is demanding nearly double what we pay in rent. She lives with her mother, is unemployed despite a bachelor's degree in accounting, and my husbands parents serve as her free babysitters. Yet he is supposed to pay. How is this acceptable?
Child support reform
I feel the child support laws need to be re-evaluated. These laws have been in affect for way to long with out change. I dont see how anyone can survive when they have to pay child support and 67% of medical bills. We are in struggling times right now and theres been a lot of changes going on in the world but yet the fathers/mothers who have to pay child support struggle everyday just to make enough for a home and food. I think something should be done.
These laws are extremely outdated! Why should a Father have to pay a demanded 20% support and put himself in debt when he also has to provide a roof/food/clothing/extra curricular activities/car/gas for our children when we have visitation and the mother makes JUST as much if not MORE than their father?? Please explain how this is just.
The child support laws have not been changed for over 50 years how is it fair things are not the way they where 50 years ago
The child support laws have not been changed for over 50 years how is it fair things are not the way they where 50 years ago
We have 50/50 custody and pay child support and medical. My husband was fine with that but what he's not fine with is when I finds a better job to better our lives she is now entitled to more money. She is just as capable of finding a better job herself.
On top of all that, how can a man who is trying to provide for his children driving trucks gets his license taken where he can no longer provide for his kids because he lost his job due to suspended license... It's set up for failure.
I completely agree to this. There should be rules for both parents involving financial support. Does it seem fair to put the noncustodial parent in debt while she/he has many children from different men/women??? They don't consider the family size of the noncustodial parent or their bills not able to get a home or travel to see the child bc of financial hardship. Yet other person just sits there collecting child support while having other babies.
Time to take the power back...

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I think child support is so unfair... My husband pays his ex $1000 a month for two kids . At the time if the divorce they were 5 & 7. Now they are 12 & 14. But here is the killer. Per divorce decree we are suppose to have the kids for the whole month of July. And the ex who works and is remarried with a big house, gets to keep the child support for that month! Now how unfair is that? So in the mean time we are suppose to support the kids financially while handing over the grand for that month. My question to you all is how are we suppose to pay for camps and or some sort of child care while in our possession for that month? We don't keep them every July Because we cannot afford too! But we still get them for two extra weeks on top of our normal visits . It's all we can afford! And at those times my husband is taking off work so he can be with them! We both work. And also on top of that she moved still in the same county but 40 miles away. So we have to do all the driving. And when they have sports or school events we drive a total of 4-8 times back and forth. Again more money we have to keep dishing out on top of child support and medical and dental insurance on top of the grand. And split all medical and dental and vision costs. Those kids have glasses , soon braces and are always going to the doctor for something. I just don't understand!
I too am a divorced Dad that feels both parents should step up and pay there fair share. I'm about to take my case to court.
My husband is paying two orders for kids that aren't his to his ex- wife and girlfriend and they are leaving him desolate. The kids are all adults and he's paying for one child she never raised and we raised the other two. He's paying way more than he should while she is and was on drugs and the other one getting support for a kid that's not his. A judge in Wisconsin said he's paying because he got re married and moved to Arizona. Please stop this! I a as a single parent who didn't get support but an honest Christian man who works hard everyday gets railroaded because he refused to be a black man in the system. Help!
In Louisiana there is a new Law for victims of domestic violence. You can get an immediate free divorce and Spousal Support is Mandated in divorces where the woman suffered abuse in the marriage. Save all of your proof of the abuse like protective order records, police reports, court records, papers from court proving he was ordered by a judge to attend battered intervention classes. Bring all of these with you to your divorce because Family court is unlikely to believe you without these papers of proof. Bring all your proof to divorce court.
In some circumstances the women had to divorce the man due to severe Physical, verbal and emotional abuse which leaves his victims with ptsd sometimes and sometimes severe panic attacks and anxiety from years upon years of abuse of unrelenting abuse, threats, violence. In these circumstances both the children and mother are emotionally unstable and need adequate time and sometimes medication to recover from the severe abuse.
Ladies when your ex starts recieving as I retirement benefits don't worry. If you apply you as his ex wife and his children can all receive a check too. Look it up.
I agree 100% mothers should b able to work just like the father's n should provide income how n how much the child's exspenses r a month
My children's mother doesn't work, doesn't go to school, doesn't do a damn thing. Never has, prob never will. Yet she has a new car, new phone, new clothes, yet my children come to me with the same shoes, clothes etc. I wish there was a law similar to how food stamps work, where everything is itemized and can only be spent on things the children need. Cause I simply do not see where the money goes. And when my son says his mom said karate practice is too expensive. Yet she has no Billls, no rent, no financial obligations whatsoever. It baffles me where $1000 a month for 2 kids goes to. I did the math. I pay her the salary of someone working 40hrs a week at $10 an hour. Congress help.
I just don't understand why a father like myself who does all the right things for there child and see there child 3+ days a week should have to pay amounts of child support that makes life a finical struggle for me and my family.... Just doesn't make sense
The fathers have it bad. However, my issue with Nevada child support is that they do not disburse the payments as they receive them. With no arrears and no money to be paid back to the state, how dare they stick their stinky government hand in the child support cookie jar. Too many fathers work their behinds off to support their own child just so a state welfare doesn't have to. Child support in america is a conspiracy theory. Designed to keep the interest of the state officials at the forefront, not the people. Better check your child support records yourself. This broke Nation will squeeze money out of a newborn like a baby is a price tag to them. THE GREED OF THIS NATION. stealing child support or not correcting disbursement issues. (Processing and payroll are human errors in a manipulated system) never believe the amount that is told to you. Request the paperwork and see for yourselves.
50/50 Custody should be the normal ruling in court.
Here's another helpful site for all of is https://www.familylawrights.net/child-visitation/
Here's another helpful site for all of is https://www.familylawrights.net/child-visitation/
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Yes children need to be well takin care of but the laws are completely unfair, I pay child support for my son every month while my ex literally does nothing but playes on her computer! She has even told them that she has never in her life time been employed but they didn't seem like that mattered in any way at all. But that's not the worst part, I have my son from tuesday till Friday and her mother has him on weekends. The mother only has him on Mondays and that's not always sometimes ill even get him on Mondays. I love having my son more then anything but I know the money goes to get cell phone bill and her boyfriends drugs. I just think that child support needs to be looked at a little more.
There is 32,375 letters sent thus far. Why don't we protest. Its a free country. Were being put below poverty level. I love my kids I did nothing wrong. I just couldn't love the person I fell in love with.
I'm ordered to pay for counselling for both parties before I can even get my order modified.
I make 3900 a month and see 800 of it. I lost 4 cars and 4 aparments.
Please stand up to fight with me. For our rights
My email. fighttocongress@gmail.com
We can not sit back and just take it.
Why write these and do nothing about it?
Im done sitting at waiting for an answer.
As a result of he mother of my child keeping my child from me for almost 6 months, I decided to take her to court.. At the time she had a job as well.. After a long painful process of her making up lies about me to get as much time as she could I finally got joint custody. She then filed for support.. She is now getting a third of my paycheck every 2 weeks. And now she is unemployed collecting my money.. And also she lives at home with her parents with her husband who has a job.. All the while she loves there rent free, doesn't pay for groceries or anything being that her parents are wealthy. I live on my own and pay my own bills while I have to give a third of my paycheck to my "daughter" who doesn't see a dime of my money.. I don't see how this is fair to my child or my situation either.
First I just want to say ever child should be well taking care of,but the child support system is based only on money being sent for the child (which in some cases doesn't even go to the child) rather than providing and better stand point for the father to be around the child or children.
Meaning I child never recognizes the money time being spent with the child or children is more important so if that's what's important why not help the parent with better seeing the child first,by not suspending his license,not taking a big percentage of his earnings,starting a program on getting the parent to be more interactive with the children then just extorting.
Clearly I could go on about this Child Support System that obviously doesn't care about the father being in the childs life but just finding a way to once again discouraging the parent by stripping them of there financial earnings,and/or driving abilities,even incarcerating a parent (Felony).Lifes hard enough as it is.
The current child support laws are shameful. With a 50/50 split, my boyfriend has to pay his ex wife an amount of money that actually brings her weekly income higher than his. Makes absolutely no sense. With the new support order, he wont bring home enough to cover his mortgage, yet his ex wife bought a house, a new car and a $300/hour attorney. Just another was to keep good people down and to encourage entitled people not to work for anything.
Ive paid over 205,000. In last ten years. Kids live with me.Still pay 1200. A month get it fixed.laws are un fair and women stay at home eat free and collect checks from state and from fathers, its a unfair system.
I think that all assets, while accumulated during marriage, should be split 50-50- unless there are other arrangements or agreements. As far as children go, it should be up to the parent, whom kid(s) are with, at the time to provide for them. Example- If mom/dad has custodial rights than its their responsibility to take care of the kids while with them; and when the other parent has the kids than that parent takes care of them. I dont see my kids more than 2 months out of the year. I dont feel I should have to continue to pay CS for kids that I dont see and live out of state and this is not by choice. The pain and suffering- health issues ( mental/physical as well as not being with my kids, missing out on every aspect in their) this has caused me and the kids. CS should not be the leading factor. If I could use the money thats pd for CS, I would be able to see my kids more often and do more for them.
The statistics speak for themselves. From 2001-2012, the federal Office of Child Support Enforcement reports a whopping increase of 50 percent in child support collections from $21 billion to $31.6 billion. Do you honestly think all the people who owe this money are bad parents? Do you honestly think that all these parents are sitting back and not trying to pay for their responsibility? Or....do you think maybe it is a faulty system that sets up the parents for failure right from the start? I think the answer is pretty obvious. So here is the kicker. We legalize gay/lesbian marriage, we spend money fighting wars in other countries, we spend time and energy on abortion laws, but I guess we are going to sit back and do nothing about a very outstanding issue that is effecting millions of people.

Here is something else to think about. If I am a non-custodial parent paying for my child. And I have paid that child support on time for eight years straight. Why in the hell is my wages being garnished? Why am I being charged administrative fees for paying my responsibility? And who in the hell would want to keep paying when this is the treatment you get for being a decent parent?

Why in god's name isn't it mandated, under normal, functioning circumstances, that the custodial parent is not obligated to at least contact the non-custodial parent for meeting that obligation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was paying a car payment every month and didn't have that car, I would be pretty ****ed off about it. Different situation, but you know what I am getting at. I want some intrinsic value for the investment I made having a child. I don't know, maybe in the form of a phone call at least once a month. I haven't gotten a phone call in over four years.

Also, here is my favorite part. Imputed income. So you leave your job and want to take something more worth your while. Think that income is what determines your child support, guess again. The state you owe child support can, potentially, use income you were making in the past as the determination for your child support. They don't necessarily care what your making now. And yes, it happened to me.

I respect the custodial parents, that in good faith, raise children and encourage their upbringing. However. the system is what is primarily to blame for the enforcement of that upbringing.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
My ex makes about 20k a year more than me has 3 different baby's from 3 different men collects support from all of us. Gets a free ride to school because she is a (single mother) by choice! And get assistance from the state for food,utilities and rent works all the ot she wants but yet I have a family of my own to raise one girl two boys and a wife yet I still have to pay to full blowen amount to her every week while I struggle to keep my family afloat I also pay medical insurance for my child but yet I can't get the payment reduced in good old NY and the unprofessional judge from chenango county NY had the nerve to say after she was awarded child support that she can now go buy her beer and alcohol!!
"It's true there is a ton of unfairness. I've been paying child support for 4 years and I haven't had the court come up with any decisions so that I can continue seeing them. Simply because my ex requested during the divorce that she didn't want me to have any type of relationship. So what happens? The court referes the case to the social worker who in turn after analyzing the case comes up with the recommendation the my ex has to take our 3 children to a family therapist. It was only suppose to be 3 consecutive sessions so that the social worker could come up with a decision. That was over a year and a half ago! All because my ex would always put off or change the sessions. Same thing happened as she missed an appiontment with the social worker, and twice had missed court dates. I don't get it. She re-married 6 months after the divorce so I don't know what her problem is but she sure loves the child $upport. Personally, I think we both know that she is just afraid that our children will want to spend more time with me. I've always been responsible and never missed a deposit. Heck, I've even been mature enough to advance it to her when ever she asked. I think it's time I take her back to court." Sincerely, a U.S. Army soldier.
"It's true there is a ton of unfairness. I've been paying child support for 4 years and I haven't had the court come up with any decisions so that I can continue seeing them. Simply because my ex requested during the divorce that she didn't want me to have any type of relationship. So what happens? The court referes the case to the social worker who in turn after analyzing the case comes up with the recommendation the my ex has to take our 3 children to a family therapist. It was only suppose to be 3 consecutive sessions so that the social worker could come up with a decision. That was over a year and a half ago! All because my ex would always put off or change the sessions. Same thing happened as she missed an appiontment with the social worker, and twice had missed court dates. I don't get it. She re-married 6 months after the divorce so I don't know what her problem is but she sure loves the child $upport. Personally, I think we both know that she is just afraid that our children will want to spend more time with me. I've always been responsible and never missed a deposit. Heck, I've even been mature enough to advance it to her when ever she asked. I think it's time I take her back to court." Sincerely, a U.S. Army soldier.
There should be a FAIR system that allows both parents to be able to afford to live and have their children. The current system is wildly unfair and ends up hurting the families and especially the children.
In my experience, the laws, the courts and the support calculator (the almighty/ridiculous/stupid Dissomaster in California) are extremely unfair and ancient and the family courts and divorce lawyers are only there to help themselves to your money and have little care of the outcomes and consequences for families and children.
I pay my ex almost 40% of my NET income, and after support, she has $3300 NET more than I do. She intentionally charged $25000.00 of her lawyer's fees to my credit cards as well as stiffing me with about $35000.00 in other debt. She got to buy a new house, I got to go bankrupt and because I pay her so much and have so much less money, I was forced to move further away from my kids and my ex and now she is trying to get more money out of me because I can't have the kids as much because I can't afford to live closer.
Moreover, for some reason the support calculator rewards owning a house by factoring mortgage in to the support calculations, but completely ignores the fact that renters still have to pay for rent, which is usually MORE than a mortgage payment.
I can see how the unfairness of the system pushes some people into being "deadbeats" and pushes people into homelessness. And then, if you are homeless, the courts will doubtless take away any time you have...
I have joint legal and physical custody of my kids, but because my ex intentionally did some pretty nasty things, she has all of the advantage, all because the family courts reward lies and this sort of thing and have no consequences for lies and demonstrably false statements.
I think there should be a FAIR amount set for each state instead of based on the father's pay. My husband pays $434.00 a month for one kid and he also supports me and 3 other kids we have, his monthly income is only 2,000 on a good month. Because of the increase in child support we had to take out loans and he had to get side jobs to pay it. That's crazy!!!
Child support creates the label dead beat, the courts will not allow me to see my daughter, and yet gauge me for $990 a month, when my income is only $2,100 a month after taxes, how can a man support his two sons and pay half his earnings. The cost of living in California is only going up, all we ask is a reform for a broken system.
System turns good men into dead beats, the system creates the labels.

Fair process is all we ask!
System turns good men into dead beats, the system creates the labels.

Fair process is all we ask!
Since it takes two people to create a child, providing for that child's needs should be a shared responsibility.

I WANT to use a shared checking account like this one (http://www.mediate.com/articles/if_they_can_do_parenting_plans.cfm) that both parents contribute to, but my old family court judge refused and told me both that "children belong with the mother" and that "your [voluntarily unemployed ex-]wife deserves that money".

At my court hearing this morning, a new family court judge denied my ex-wife's request for more money and told her both that she needs to get a job and that "child support is for the care and maintenance of the children, not for your support".

My request for shared custody was denied (again), despite my choosing to live in the same school district as my ex-wife to minimize the disruption to my children's lives, so the fight to be more than a child support check and a visitor in my children's lives is not over yet.

Additional reading - http://fathersunite.org/Child%20Support%20Incentive%20Abuse%20Report.pdf and https://web.archive.org/web/20150219014614/http://answerisland.com/child-support-kickbacks.html
ITS AN INCENTIVE!!.we now have to pay you money to take care of your own kids!what did people do before child support was established? they figured out a way!!!ABOLISH THE CHILD SUPPORT LAW!!PARENTS,WAKE UP AND GET OFF YOUR ASS!!you take care of your kids,PERIOD!give em to grandma,put them in foster care,get off your butt and work,but dont expect someone else to pay you off for something that was your decision.WORK IT OUT!
AMERICA,YOU ARE CREATING MORE LAZINESS FOR THE HUMAN RACE!
they also need to make it an agreement of both parties whether to have the child or not,NOT JUST THE MOTHER!![oh youre not paying me anymore?...well I don\'t want to take em!!!!I]I wonder how many kids would be thrown away by horrible abusing parents of the system if that happened?HUMANS NEED A WAKE-UP-CALL!!!and start drug testing for all the government aid.that will clear out a lot of Americas debt,and the lying abusers of the system!
ITS AN INCENTIVE!!.we now have to pay you money to take care of your own kids!what did people do before child support was established? they figured out a way!!!ABOLISH CHILD SUPPORT!!PARENTS,WAKE UP AND GET OFF YOUR ASS!!they also need to make it an agreement of both parties whether to have the child or not,NOT JUST THE MOTHER!!oh youre not paying me anymore?...well I don't want to take em!!!!HUMANS NEED A WAKE-UP-CALL!!!
ITS AN INCENTIVE!!.we now have to pay you money to take care of your own kids!what did people do before child support was established? they figured out a way!!!ABOLISH CHILD SUPPORT!!PARENTS,WAKE UP AND GET OFF YOUR ASS!!they also need to make it an agreement of both parties whether to have the child or not,NOT JUST THE MOTHER!!oh youre not paying me anymore?...well I don't want to take em!!!!HUMANS NEED A WAKE-UP-CALL!!!
I couldn't agree more. The situation is relative too. If a court grants 50/50 custody, the non-custodial parent would have more time to work and get off their lazy rear-end. My judge told me to get a 2nd job. Why me and not her? Here is something to think about too; Daughters of single parents without a Father involved are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 711% more likely to have children as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a pre-marital birth and 92% more likely to get divorced themselves.
Adolescent girls raised in a 2 parent home with involved Fathers are significantly less likely to be sexually active than girls raised without involved Fathers.
90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999]
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
Now I just picked a few but there are tons of these statistics. I also tried to search for Motherless statistics and thought I came across something. Trying to be fair I started reading yet more statistics that are not ideal for single mothers.
in cases where a father is granted custodial rights, 30% of fathers receive some sort of support ordered by the court in a divorce, whereas 80% of women are awarded support during a divorce.
Fatherless boys and girls are: twice as likely to drop out of high school; twice as likely to end up in jail; four times more likely to need help for emotional or behavioral problems. [US D.H.H.S. news release, March 26, 1999]

As I read these statistics (yes, some are very out dated) I am beginning to see an underlying trend. Mothers are the nurturing portion of the relationship to the child where the father is the stability, the security. Each parent putting in the things that a child needs to grow up and be as normal as possible.
Why point this out? There are so many single parents out there who become jaded when a divorce happens. They make it their goal to destroy the child's perception of the other parent and that child grows up seeing both parents arguing and ignoring the real needs of the child. So to those who say that the custody should be 50/50, I cant help but agree wholeheartedly. I myself had 50/50 custody with 3 children (2 boys, 1 girl). As my kids have aged, the boys both decided living with me was more ideal. I am a stern father. I show love and support, but they know I mean business. Splitting from their mother initially destroyed me as a person. I cracked basically and my kids witnessed this and I know to this day that it had a direct impact on my children. As my daughter grew older and I suspected that she was becoming sexually active with a very pushy boyfriend, she decided I was cramping her style and moved in with her mother at the age of 15 (almost 16). Under my roof I would have been more of a constant to
I couldn't agree more. The situation is relative too. If a court grants 50/50 custody, the non-custodial parent would have more time to work and get off their lazy rear-end. My judge told me to get a 2nd job. Why me and not her? Here is something to think about too; Daughters of single parents without a Father involved are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 711% more likely to have children as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a pre-marital birth and 92% more likely to get divorced themselves.
Adolescent girls raised in a 2 parent home with involved Fathers are significantly less likely to be sexually active than girls raised without involved Fathers.
90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999]
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
Now I just picked a few but there are tons of these statistics. I also tried to search for Motherless statistics and thought I came across something. Trying to be fair I started reading yet more statistics that are not ideal for single mothers.
in cases where a father is granted custodial rights, 30% of fathers receive some sort of support ordered by the court in a divorce, whereas 80% of women are awarded support during a divorce.
Fatherless boys and girls are: twice as likely to drop out of high school; twice as likely to end up in jail; four times more likely to need help for emotional or behavioral problems. [US D.H.H.S. news release, March 26, 1999]

As I read these statistics (yes, some are very out dated) I am beginning to see an underlying trend. Mothers are the nurturing portion of the relationship to the child where the father is the stability, the security. Each parent putting in the things that a child needs to grow up and be as normal as possible.
Why point this out? There are so many single parents out there who become jaded when a divorce happens. They make it their goal to destroy the child's perception of the other parent and that child grows up seeing both parents arguing and ignoring the real needs of the child. So to those who say that the custody should be 50/50, I cant help but agree wholeheartedly. I myself had 50/50 custody with 3 children (2 boys, 1 girl). As my kids have aged, the boys both decided living with me was more ideal. I am a stern father. I show love and support, but they know I mean business. Splitting from their mother initially destroyed me as a person. I cracked basically and my kids witnessed this and I know to this day that it had a direct impact on my children. As my daughter grew older and I suspected that she was becoming sexually active with a very pushy boyfriend, she decided I was cramping her style and moved in with her mother at the age of 15 (almost 16). Under my roof I would have been more of a constant to
I want to go to school, I want to better my life. However I can't because I'm getting raped by child support, we had an agreement to even cancel itand, according to the "oh so great state of Ohio" she can't cancel it. It's complete and total ********, she gets to steal the money I actually go out and earn all while I struggle to make my life any degree better. I want to go back to school, I want a better job, I want to be happy; but no, I get ****ed over for wanting a better life. There is a problem with the system and it needs to be fixed.
The child support laws are unfair. A lot of people are paying to much while others are paying to little. It needs to be looked at as a set wage (how much does it cost to take care of a child and divide that in half). This percentage of what the other person makes is ridiculous. Hate to say it but kids don't need designer clothing and name brand food. Why should one person work their a** off just so another person can sit on their butt and do nothing or work a lesser paying job. I also think that the person receiving the child support should have to show proof that they are actually using it for the child and not for their own personal use.
I'm not saying every person out there getting/paying child support has these issues, but there are a lot of people out there who do. My personal opinion, 50/50 custody and get rid of the support all together.
$500 a month for the mother of my child who abuses the welfare system and claims financial difficulties, yet strolls into court with a new coach purse and just moved to one of the most expensive zip codes in arizona. Yeah...I would say there is some serious flaws in the system.
The system is corrupt and needs to be abolished. F the government
Our states child support laws are extremely flawed. My boyfriend currently pays over half of his paycheck for child support, meanwhile the mother has purchased a new vehicle and in the process of purchasing a new house. She had a lawyer and he did not which was a huge mistake but I do not feel that making a father with a full time job pay 2/3rds of his check to child support is right. Then you require him to carry insurance on himself. My question is what should he live off when there is nothing left after child support and insurance? He opts not to have insurance and I am pretty sure will eventually file bankruptcy on the medical bills that he currently has. This man works a full time job. It seems like these days it's all about punishment, and though some is deserved, the courts need to realize that it's more than just the father paying in many cases.
Comment: Marlen E. from Lebanon, VA writes:
First I'd like to say it's not just woman who set on their butt. I have 3 girls and was married for ten years. I endured years of physical and mental abuse. I worked 3 jobs while he played the mom roll. His income was SSI disability and before you say anything my kids can't draw a check it's not the same disability. After separating I begged him to help but nothing. I took it to court and started receiving support (didn't last long). I felt sorry for him on numerous occasions cause he would say he didn't have anything left after paying me so I said keep some. Later I found out he lied about not having money. I caught him working while being on the draw. Someone reported him so he lost his check. He quit coming around so I new something was up and went back to court only to find out he was back on the check. I couldn't get anything cause they don't garnish or take from a person that draws ssi. He is married now and has 2 kids one belongs to his ex. He filed for custody and child support against the ex guess what he now receives child support. How is that fair? I get NOTHING Next time don't point fingers at just one race. Some woman are just as bad as the dads EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!! I want stop trying to get the law changed.

I was just reading this and I think the issue is backward here. This site is intended to make lawfully, paying individuals heard. Not to stick it to women who truly need child support. This is regarding career child support abusers. This is not a one sided sex situation. This situation happens to both male and female.
Here is an example of whats wrong with society today; A man, dates a single mother, he moves in with this single mother and they share bills. The single father supplements single mother and new boyfriends income "for the children" lol. Single father cannot afford an apartment to give proper shelter to his children, so, the court doesn't allow for overnight visitation because his living situation is unfit for the kids. Then, single mother and new boyfriend plan vacations, go to expensive sporting events and buy frivolous items. House 3 dogs and rarely ever buy new clothing for the kids. disclaimer: this is a totally fictitious example :)
This would be an example of why the laws need changing. There should be a system of checks and balances where support receivers should have to show receipts of everything. Bills, clothing expenses, food, everything... and, a support receiver should not be allowed to work a job that is tip based because these sort of people lie through their teeth about how much they receive in tips. A person who starts their life over with a new love in their life should have child support drastically reduced or stopped all together based on the new total combined household income. You may be getting ripped off Marlen, but your story (with ssi) is very unique and not of the norm. The example above is starting to be more of the norm
It is unfair that women could repeatingly cheating , having kids from several guys and make money from child support. It is also unfair that child support is taken from gross income. The law needs to be revised.
Laws that will allow the court to set child support payments according to 'gross' income for the sole purpose of the lining their own pockets and that do not establish visitation for the non-castodial parent automatically in the court order along with child support are indeed unfair.
Laws need to be changed so people don't take advantage of the system or other people.
Laws need to be changed so people don't take advantage of the system or other people.
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They treat the woman like the man they should do what we have too do work and it hurts a hard working man who want too take care of there kids get punished cause we pay child support and still don't see or kids so change this law
I've been paying child support for two daughters that I hardly ever get to see because their mother moved 5.5 hrs away! I'm expectEd to pay 40% of my gross income and drive both ways all this is bs
About to file bankruptcy just because of Child Support most times I don't even want to work a regular job just because of Child Support I'm paying over 10,000 in back support they took my drivers license so now I'm on a restricted perment that means my income is restricted as well I can't apply for a house can't buy a new car and it's even harder for me to take care of the children that actually live with me my restricted perment will expire soon and I'll have to jump through even more hoops to get another one... In the state of Illinois the lowest you can pay for child support is $50 a week since I'm paying back support that's $72 a week at the end of 52 weeks or 12 months that's a little over $3,000 a year but with the worst of Interest it's literally rules right back over not to mention the state and federal taxes and insurance that comes out your check each week I don't even get to see my child or know where she is at due to the fact that her mother constantly moves from place to place she lives on Section 8 she only works about 6 months out the year and then quits her job so that the government won't catch up with hherand then go's on unemployment why type of example dose this set for my daughter that's it's ok to live by the mail box I do the best I can for my family but it's not enough.... The needs of the many outweigh the few I don't see you I'm not around you i have no contact with you then what do you need from me I have other children that I see and that live with me that could actually use that money.... SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE don't just signed the petition passed it on....
First I'd like to say it's not just woman who set on their butt. I have 3 girls and was married for ten years. I endured years of physical and mental abuse. I worked 3 jobs while he played the mom roll. His income was SSI disability and before you say anything my kids can't draw a check it's not the same disability. After separating I begged him to help but nothing. I took it to court and started receiving support (didn't last long). I felt sorry for him on numerous occasions cause he would say he didn't have anything left after paying me so I said keep some. Later I found out he lied about not having money. I caught him working while being on the draw. Someone reported him so he lost his check. He quit coming around so I new something was up and went back to court only to find out he was back on the check. I couldn't get anything cause they don't garnish or take from a person that draws ssi. He is married now and has 2 kids one belongs to his ex. He filed for custody and child support against the ex guess what he now receives child support. How is that fair? I get NOTHING Next time don't point fingers at just one race. Some woman are just as bad as the dads EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!! I want stop trying to get the law changed.

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